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» crocman - Is it a community win?

Interesting article bro.

Of course talking with a nyungar sis of ours, the community while on the whole is greatful that some rights are being recognized, its being questioned whose. Alot of people have expressed concerns that the limitations and conditions of the rights to native title will mean alot of poeple simply arent related to the right nyungars to get any benefit, and in addition the amount of angst that will cause in the community as people argue who has rights to who is yet another way in which there will be in the long run a great division of the community....and the ink hadnt even dried on the paper before there was talk of appeals.

I wonder what kind of community win it will be in the long run.

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» woorama - Is it a community win?

In response to Is it a community win? posted by crocman:

is that you, lawman? i'm assuming it is.

yeah, my big concern is the response from howard and beazley both - those words "dangerous precedent" scare me... bodes ill for the future of all native title i reckon.

that win in wa will not hold, i'm afraid. even if it does stay, it will end up so watered down anyway, and will only be allowed to remain in any form if it serves the dominant interests as a tool of division. from what you say it seems this is happening already.

why do all our victories get turned into defeats?

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» crocman - Is it a community win?

In response to Is it a community win? posted by woorama:
yeah tis J..

no the win wont hold and in the meantime the division it will cause will create further rifts between families and communities.

Why do all our vitories get turned into defeats? Because we are dealing with whiteman law.....and there will never be an victories for a blackfulla in white law.

The law of the land always stands for us bro.

take care

Jason

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» woorama - Is it a community win?

In response to Is it a community win? posted by crocman:

yeah, that's hard. had too many old people die recently who spent their whole lives fighting for recognition of title in the waipal law way - only for me to see it all watered down and washed away. those warriors died for nothing. well, maybe that's what warriors are for. i always thought i was a warrior. but magpie girl (j.. you know who i mean) tells me her nanna says i got a hunter spirit - well, maybe the way to fight is not warrior way, but hunter way. makes me think - maybe the rights we need to survive is something we need to start tracking, chasing, hunting down - rather than fighting face to face for in a system that's not our own. why play by war rules that are stacked against us and can be changed to suit the enemy whenever we actually win a battle? we need to disappear... stalk... track... ambush... no more waipal rules, i say.

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» crocman - Is it a community win?

In response to Is it a community win? posted by woorama:
Definately something to think about bro...use what skills we do have to assert justice for our cause...Im not even sure that warriors really were that prevalent amongst our people...more lawmen and medicine then anything else...

A hunter spirit would be more honorable then a warriors...after all they provide as well as protect.

Hope to catch you on the circle soon...were all waiting to welcome you to our fire.

No more waipal rules true.

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» woorama - Is it a community win?

In response to Is it a community win? posted by crocman:

the other day i was talking to a maori woman, congratulating her on the maori rennaissance on aotearoa. she shocked me with her response, which was, "Well, that's because we've always been warriors, but your people were just hunters and gatherers." well, that nearly knocked me over to hear that. that's why i'm always a bit resistant to the idea that our warriors were not much of a big deal - they were! history only records it differently out of convenience - easier to justify taking land from people who are supporsedly too "passive" or "simple" or "lazy" to defend it.

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